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INTJ Women ~ Value Knowledge

The MBTI personality type INTJ female are a minority in society.  Men make up about 2% of the general population and women about 0.8%.  The common term for this group is Mastermind or Architect. Certainly they are excellent thinkers and have strong powers of deductive reasoning. This trait enables them to appear mildly psychic when it’s probably simple logic applied to a routine situation.  INTJ women value knowledge and enjoy exploring a wide variety of interests. Often, one curiosity leads to another. The depth of knowledge may be astonishing as not much is left undiscovered once a fascination takes hold. INTJ women are lifelong learners and self motivated to know about a great many things.

Learn/Acquire Knowledge

INTJ’s commonly educate themselves continuously throughout their lives. Typically, there is an initial period of fascination with something or someone. The topic will be thoroughly explored not only with book knowledge, but also through practical experience. There may be an acquisition period where things are gathered in the home for exploration. Introverts prefer to learn at their own pace, quietly and methodically. There is comfort in having the interest around in different forms. The intense interest may continue for three or five years, perhaps a lifetime. After as much knowledge as can be absorbed occurs,, another topic of interest will come along and sweep them away.

An Example of INTJ curiosity ~ Arts ~ Culture ~ Travel

In 2012, I became charmed by an Italian pop-opera group. I tuned into a PBS program about half-way through the broadcast and my attention was caught by the excellent lyric tenor in the group.

When they sang the Charlie Chaplin song, “Smile”, the INTJ fascination tuned in. Many years ago, Chaplin became a personal hero. I fell in love with his character, Charlot or the Little Fellow and enjoyed his films. Chaplin was a superb storyteller and filmmaker. The films were humorous and engaging. However, they didn’t strike me so much as funny but poignant. The attraction to the character went in quite deep. He tugged at feelings. INTJs are clever at not letting feelings rule the moment. We don’t often give in to their power. The Little Tramp captivated audiences with the sincerity of his feelings. Chaplin was a charismatic actor who showed us the heart of this character. The term genius is not misapplied. Chaplin had a great understanding of human nature and tuned into the challenge of needs in relationships.

Most INTJ women will repeat a tale of not fitting in to the family, workplace or with social groups. Their social skills and values are not conventional. They want to be taken seriously because of who they are, not their place in society. Often, they are outsiders and prefer their own company. INTJ’s do not follow the crowd and consider those who do to be suspect.

Chaplin’s character routinely came into a situation alone. He is cast as an outsider with no permanent home, family or social network. He works for the necessity of money. Being alone, he often becomes a target for misdeeds or misadventures. Sometimes, he is the culprit causing a ruckus and getting in the way. The tramp often displayed a blindness to authority. Most INTJ women are aware of power structures but don’t follow the rules. Chaplin was quick to kick anyone in the pants that crossed him. He was not always the aggressor but was no push over.

His struggles to fit into society, a sense of having come down in the world, and mostly, his ability to connect to an audience are fascinating to watch. He is often left out, despite his efforts not to be. He is me, I don’t have the funny bone and his habit of getting even or outsmarting his adversary. However, in so many moments, so many looks, he reveals what he felt deep inside. How close this man’s spirit was to mine. The fondness for this fictional character is difficult to convey. INTJ’s feel things deeply, we just hesitate to expose them in public.

The Little Fellow often left a story on his own, either kicked out or running away. Sometimes, he is seen hobbling away in despair for having misjudged the situation. He put himself at risk by exposing his feelings and they were squashed. As the character shuffles on, he suddenly sparks and snaps out of the mood. It’s as if he said, I’ve been alone and abandoned again, but I can survive, I can pick myself up and carry on.

Chaplin walks into scenes with a certainty about himself. No matter what is happening, he stays in balance and in character. He learned somewhere along the way to become his own best friend. INTJ women carry this ability, learned through painful interactions in social situations. The trait of self-reliance and self-acceptance is a prime support to most INTJ women.

INTJ Pathways of Exploration

The pop-opera trio revived my appreciation of Chaplin and the important place he has in my life story. The trio also brought back enjoyment and appreciation of classical music and opera. In my teens and twenties, I commonly listened to Chopin, Beethoven, and Mozart. I had a tape of famous opera arias routinely listened to Friday afternoons. Placido Domingo was a prominent tenor on the recording.

The trio sing in Italian, Spanish and English. As I could understand about one word in fifty in the other languages, a spark to learn Italian took over. This led to a continuous study of Italian until this day. Much of the learning is solitary as I cannot find a local language class. The motivation to learn connected with a pen pal in Italy. The fascination with all things Italian took over and I explored Italian culture and eventually traveled to Italy twice. The discovery of Italian wines has been fun. This article was written at the beginning phase of Italian fascination. The Labels are Pretty but Where Do I Start?

The revival of a love for classical music led to a  new appreciation of opera and Mozart’s collected works. The local cinema offers Met Opera simulcast on Sunday afternoons. I listen routinely to the Mozart opera “Lucio Silla” during the daily work commute. I was so captivated by the music I eventually traveled to Toronto to see the opera live. It is not often staged and so, I found the courage to go. The adventure is told in this blog: Review of Lucio Silla at Opera Atelier Toronto

This is a typical INTJ path of exploration. The motivation to get out and experience it hands on pushes the means to save, plan and eventually, find the gumption to travel out into society to experience the curiosity in person.

Chiaramonte Castle of Naro Sicily

As it is almost seven years since the fascination took hold for the Italian trio and interest has waned. They were a springboard to other paths ready for exploration. During my travels to Italy, I did visit the hometown of the lyric tenor and met his mother in Sicily. The adventure proved to be outstanding as Sicily is rich in complex cultural histories including Greek, Norman, Roman and more. The baroque architecture is beautiful to behold. The cities on the island are all unique and offer much to enjoy. The quality of life, folklore, panorama and cultural experiences offered this INTJ a bounty never expected.

Fandom Follies

It was one glance, one song well sung that led to adventures. The only negative experience was the behavior of obsessed fans. After spending some time around and in different fan groups, it became obvious the crowd placed the Italian trio on pedestals. Other fans needed to follow the crowd for acceptance. The choice was go along or move on. The behavior was too controlling by strangers whose intention was association to the trio in some way. Fans would steal artwork and relabel it as original if it drew positive attention. Any challenge to the so-called influencers was met with a public pillory.

The social structure of the fan groups required a setting aside of values and willingness to follow self-appointed leaders.  INTJ’s are well grounded in the common shortcomings we all possess. INTJ’s bow down to no one. It’s fine to be star struck for a while, however, the rational inclination reminds us to stay grounded. Some of the encounters were painful as INTJ’s put all of themselves into acquiring knowledge. We are not at all superficial. Interactions matter. Activities matter. Friends matter. Our actions matter and if we are exploited, the instinct is to move on.

Perhaps it was my affection for Chaplin’s character that stopped a full immersion in celebrity. I love his works, and the character he created. Chaplin achieved great fame as a celebrity. However, his biographies and personal reflections reveal a driven, brilliant artist with many flaws. It’s the artistic expression that brings enjoyment. It is how the art brought satisfaction and comfort into my life on many levels. The persona and not the person.

The pop-opera trio reconnected previous enjoyments and expanded my horizons. While I appreciate the prompt, I put things in motion and achieved goals long dormant or never dreamed. The obscuring of reality in fandom is something INTJs would see through sooner rather than later. It’s the art, that opened doors.

This article demonstrates how an INTJ women acquires knowledge. We are sincerely curious about many aspects of life. When the motivation is strong, we’ll go anywhere and within reason, do many things to understand a topic in every way. While at times it appears the article rambles, it’s typical of how one interest reveals another, and another and the remarkable depth of knowledge acquired as a way of life and an attempt to understand the order of things.

 

The Swallows of Spring

The spring rolls into May with plentiful rains creating many a vernal pool in Central Massachusetts. All trees are budding up and we await the return of a soothing green canopy. Birds are starting to return from winter grounds. The wood thrush is on the way. We await in joyful expectation of the lovely forest trill. Spring gardeners are pruning blossoming fruit trees. The earth opens to the sun.

Thoughts turn to Italy and previous travels to this lovely country in the month of May. This season will be devoted to horses, gardens and home. However, it’s always possible to connect to Italy through foods, wines, and music. Two wonderful tenors from Italy herald the return of spring in song.

Piero Barone of Naro, Sicily provides a charming rendition of the ballad, “Non Ti Scordar di Me”, in English, Don’t You Forget About Me. This recording by Maria Sergeeva of IL Volo Russia was captured in Taormina Sicily in the Teatro Antico, an ancient outdoor amphitheater overlooking Mount Aetna.

Don’t Forget About Me
by Ernesto de Curtis and Domenico Furnò

The swallows left
From my cold and sunless country,
Searching for Springs full of violets
And lovely and happy nests.
My little swallow left
Without leaving me a kiss
She left without a goodbye
Don’t forget about me:

My life is tied to you
I love you more and more
In my dream you stay
Don’t forget about me

My life is tied to you
There’s always a nest
In my heart for you
Don’t forget about me

A visit to the city of Ragusa Sicily is remembered for the swallows winging around the Church domes. Famed Italian tenor Luciano Pavarotti sang the lovely, “Rondine al Nido” in English Swallows Nests. Recorded in Central Park New York City. I love this song.

Rondine Al Nido
by Vincenzo de Crescenzo

Under the eaves of the old tower,
as the almond tree blossoms,
a friendly swallow has returned.
Every year she returns,
always in the same day.
She crosses mountains and sea
to get back here.
Only love flees
and does not return.
It makes you hope in vain,
but it does not return.
It makes you hope in vain,
but it does not return.

II
In the soft twilight of evening
springtime is passing.
The swallows chatter in their flight —
they are drunk with light and air.
But I am sad and lonely.
You do not cross mountains and sea
to come back to me.
My little one,
You were my whole life,
but you ran away,
never to return.
You ran away,
never to return!

Both of these recordings are captured live with an orchestra. The quality of the singers notes and those of the musical instruments blend beautifully. Both singers understand the need to pace and match note and tone with the violin or flute.

The tales are sad, singing of love lost and the hope spring brings of renewing bonds of love. Such beautiful voices. Life brings fresh, first green of springtime. The heart remembers what it was like to be in love and laments the loss. Something is lost, yet, the season rolls on.

Blessings of Springtime in song.

INTJ – ISTJ Female ~ Intimidating Social Behavior

My MBTI personality type assessment outcome  is routinely INTJ or ISTJ. Every test is slightly different, and of course, I am different on the day it is taken. In reviewing forums or articles on the female INTJ-ISTJ,, it’s not unusual to find similar  traits for these two types including, introversion, independence, intelligence, organizational skills,, deep listeners, deep thinkers, non-verbal, distant and intimidating.

INTJ Strengths

INTJ’s have strong powers of deductive reasoning and innovation. It’s okay when things change. In fact, they’d rather sort out problems on their own and are not comfortable in group work. They are social beings but prefer interaction with a few individuals.. INTJ’s enjoy quiet, peaceful, orderly and predictable environments. They are fastidious, industrious and highly organized.

ISTJ Strengths

ISTJ’s have strong powers of focus, thrive in routines, follow the rules and prefer stability. They’d rather work things out with a few colleagues or go alone. They are not comfortable in group work. They are social beings but prefer interaction with close family or friends; the fewer the better. ISTJ’s prefer quiet, restful, neat and predictable environments. They are fastidious, industrious and highly organized.

Both groups are aware of their feelings and can be swayed by emotion, impulse and wants. Mature INTJ”S and ISTJ’s have accumulated life experience and rely on mistakes to guide future actions. They value inner wisdom gained by social interactions. However, sooner rather than later, feelings as being the driver in decision-making are recognized and not allowed to rule, especially when it comes to finance, education and employment. If they give into their passions, reality will intervene and prevent consequences such as bad investments, negative relationships and toxic work environments.

INTJ-ISTJ  Characteristic – Intimidating

Early Focus on Independence

I figured out as a teenager, that office work environments are complex. The idea of being inside all day long, sitting at a desk, milling around people  and following rules sounded like a cage. As an introvert, the need to separate from the crowd was strong. It’s important to be out in nature everyday. The only career goal I had at the  time was to work with horses. The attraction was a job that required physical labor, being out-of-doors often and of course, beautiful horses. It took me a while to find the courage to separate from my childhood routines. The ISTJ side of me likes things to stay the same. However, by the age of 21, the goal was achieved. I found work on a small private estate first in Rhode Island and a few years later,  in New Jersey and stayed well out of the limelight of traditional workforce until age 28.

Intimidation in Work Environments

The first time a manager said a  male co-worker was afraid of me I was completely surprised. My work style is to do my job, keep quiet, share very lightly about home life and take a walk almost every lunch hour. The intimidated man  was a retiree hired to do the mail run managed out of the office I worked in daily. Our employer was a living history museum in Massachusetts. The reaction had something to do with the way I walked into an office and spoke.

Here was the first sign of office interactions I dreaded so many years ago. Everyone brings in different strengths and goals on the job. I truly work to live. Yes, I spoke with others and sought out companionship. In fact, I am still casually friendly with two of the office staff almost twenty years later. It was the man who struggled, and only some men. I thought it might be that I had worked with horses for so long. It’s important to develop the ability to take charge with these big animals. The horse has to yield, never by force, but by energy. The human is in charge. Good horse handles walk into the barn and take charge. It keeps everyone safe.

Style of Communication Non Traditional

I participate in discussion forums and understand INTJ females talk in a straight, unemotional guy like manner. The directness, clarity and energy are not typical of a woman. Some men are confused by the signals being given out. She’s female, but she’s taking the lead. It must have been this he picked up. I am not a type A personality, rather I’ve learned to be self-sufficient and rarely wait for a task to be completed, preferring to figure it out and do it myself. Again, working on a private horse farm, I had to be capable of managing a horse on my own. I had to drive a truck and trailer with a live animal inside. I cleaned out a barn of 5 to 10 horses, ran a tractor and exercised horses daily. It’s very normal to manage these tasks alone. I never thought twice about it.

Feminist Influence

Also, I am a feminist at heart and idolized  Gloria Steinem from about age 11, I was born in 1960 and came of age during the height of the equal rights movement in the United States.  Once in a while, I would share this fact publicly and some men and women often reacted by backing up a step or two. Steinem intimidated the crap out of many people, yet she never raised her voice but spoke with direct, intelligence.

The message taken in was a woman had choices. It wasn’t necessary to live in a traditional family setting. The best thing for a woman was a solid education and ability to support herself. If marriage and child rearing are your choice, still understand, the situation can change at any moment and you need to be self-supporting. Dependence on others is an option, however, remember to follow your instincts and fulfill your needs first. This is not traditional female talk. She suggested the norm isn’t the norm for everyone. Steinem shook things as they are completely. An independent woman was rare. Many women identify themselves through their family and children. I hear it and see it daily.

A few years ago, I had the privilege of being in the audience at a speech Steinem gave in Worcester, MA. The year was 2005 and there it was, I learned almost everything I am today from Steinem. I forgot how strong her message sunk into my psyche. I lived a life I chose, still do.I am not married and did not have children due to an awareness of overpopulating the planet and being users of resources that are irreplaceable. The message, be a friend to Earth and not a burden, appealed to me and was a strong driver behind not following the norm of home and family. I walk my talk and rarely explain my choices to anyone.  For some reason, people find this behavior intimidating. Steinem might be an ENTJ, the outward projecting side of this MBTI personality type.

Drama in the Office

Conflicts in the workplace are completely normal. Over the years, I’ve seen a pattern emerge in where a coworker is annoyed or upset about my behavior, but often cannot say why. INTJ females don’t normally exchange superficial chat. Girl talk tends to swirl around kids, partners, dining out, fashion and domestic concerns. My talk tends to be around taking care of my house, gardening chores, places I’ve lived, travel tales or my cats. I love horses and Star Wars and can rattle on about these topics easily. I had a coworker that began her work shift at 10 a.m., and would walk in and start venting her morning experience of family and child. Often it was ranting about late for the bus or other personal domestic pettiness. I shut that down. There was no way I was going to listen to someone dump everyday at work. This seemed to annoy the coworker. She found someone to share the details with and it was both of them that levelled a complaint. The exact nature of the complaint was vague when i asked for it be made clear. After a discussion or two, it seemed to revolve around the lack of personal emphasis with her. In other words, I kept a professional distance, did my job, expected her to do hers and focused on tasks rather than a relationship. SHE IS NOT MY FRIEND. I don’t like or dislike coworkers, it doesn’t go there. We are not INVOLVED at this level. I believe INTJ-ISTJ are sophisticated enough to keep the domestic out of the workplace. Women and a fair amount of men, prefer to blend both private and public life without effort. I cannot do this. There is a strong need to retain privacy and that it be respected by strangers. Office workers are strangers. We are employed for an income. WE ARE NOT FRIENDS. I think this is the rub. The coworker demonstrated gossipy, needy and confused tendencies routinely. There were strong signs of poor office skills and a lack of initiative. As I wasn’t her supervisor, I kept my distance. This seems to have been her problem. I kept a professional, personal distance and was comfortable working in this manner. She couldn’t handle it.

INTJ-ISTJ have an intense MYOB outlook. Mind your own business rules. The revelation of private, family or relationship activity is almost offensive. The sense of privacy is strong and when others exhibit a lack of boundaries, this creates a sense of wanting to withdraw from relations.

TMI – Privacy Preferred

The phrase TMI, too much information, resonates well with female INTJ’s. What’s the point of complaining and going on about people I don’t know and concerns that I am not involved in. It’s not my problem. I had to live through a messy, public divorce a manager went through on the job somewhere. I absolutely hated it. We were exposed to phone call fights and crying fits of  her intimate personal problems. This is repulsive to INTJ’s. In public, it’s highly unwanted to experience displays of emotion. Women do this more often than men.

INTJ/ISTJ value privacy, theirs and others. Exposure of strong emotions in a public place, among colleagues or strangers is considered very rude. Loud voices and sobbing are done at home, with family or the most dear of friends. I believe INTJ/ISTJ define friendship differently than most other MBTI personality types. A friend is an intimate, a confidente, we tend to not have many as the relationship needs to be reciprocal. A lot of people take away energy and time without sharing the experience of another. INTJ’s pick out, the all about me folks right away and keep a distance. They are bores. Introverts conserve energy, talkative bores expand and tax the energy of an introvert. Nothing of value has been exchanged.

So, I am a woman, independent, self-reliant by choice. I was hired by one boss because of these traits. He thought I would not be so easily intimidated by the male dominated workforce I was supporting. Despite the fact that I feel as helpless and lost as anybody else anyday, I give off confidence and an attitude of don’t mess with her.

Quiet Confidence

INTJ-ISTJ are quietly, competent and strong. We live in our own power and guard it carefully. We are thoughtful about others and realize people may be dealing with difficult issues. We all do. However, we keep it someplace else.

During my lifetime, I learned along the way that everyone bites. Sooner or later,  people will take a chunk out of you in some way. There’s a keen sense of self-protection against being taken advantage and also, not waiting to be rejected. Perhaps in another article, I will provide insight into the family life, it was not a healthy domestic scene. Most families are not. There was physical, mental, emotional and spiritual neglect in the household. Much of it certainly has influenced a life view.  Too many times, I had to pick myself up, save myself and eventually, learned to be my best friend.

INTJ/ISTJ females are direct in speech habit, but they also see clearly the character of people around them. We pick up nonverbal cues and fit them into a pattern of expected behaviors and outcomes. We also bow down to no one. Authority figures aren’t above us either. We don’t act like a female yet we are. This is confusing and maybe that is what creates the intimidation. People don’t know what I may do or say next. I give off the vibe that I don’t need others. A lot of folks cannot handle this energy in a woman.

To this day, I still think it has a lot to do with horses. I pair so much easier with a horse than a human. We get each other, find our connections and make a bond. I respect their strength and beauty. They are smarter than me in many ways. I admire horses and how much they give. They could buck us off any second, yet go along with jumping, trail riding and traveling on trailers.

A childhood hero of mine is Bob Dylan. I am old enough to recall the power of his words and music during the 1960s.. He called attention to social and domestic concerns. His music had something to say. I loved his look, his words and intentions behind the words. In his voice, I could hear and connect to what he was trying to say. The song, “Positively 4th Street” strikes me as pure INTJ. The words, the picture painted with the words tell a classic tale of INTJ reality in too many situations. Above all else, INTJ-ISTJ women won’t make things better, won’t deny the hardships in life, won’t hide the pain of betrayal and ignorance. Dylan let it out in this song.